I purchased a X570 motherboard, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII HERO (Wi-Fi).
I had wanted to get a X570 motherboard for a long time since I used the Ryzen 3000 series. I already had the X470 motherboard, and X470 motherboards doesn’t fully support Ryzen 3000 series. In my case, I didn’t get any problems about overclocking cores, but I’ve felt a limit to memory tuning. Looking at QVLs on each manufacturer’s website, it can be seen that X570 motherboards support officially higher speed DRAMs than X470 motherboards.
There are many nice X570 motherboards among middle-high to high-end crass. The reason which I chose ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) is that it supports DRAMs which have more tight XMP. As far as I see QVLs, ASUS and MSI release high-end X570 motherboards which can manage DRAMs with higher frequency. In particular, MSI’s high-end motherboards (MEG X570 Godlike, PRESTIGE X570 Creation, etc.) are famous for to support 5000 MHz DRAMs officially. However, since I plan to use 32GB of memory capacity (using four 8GB DRAMs) in the future, I focused on to support of four DRAMs. In addition, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-fi) was very attractive because of supporting F4-3600C14Q-32GTZN which I already have.
Now I am using it in a trial state without making extreme adjustments, and it works without any problems. From now on, I would like to try to various verifications with this motherboard.
私はX570マザーボード,ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII HERO(Wi-Fi)を購入しました.
This article introduces the types of memory layouts of the motherboard that connect memories and memory controllers in a CPU. Memory layouts affect raising a memory clock, so it can say that actual memory behavior depends not only on the CPU and memory but also on the motherboard (and these combination). Especially when using Ryzen, it is important to tune the memory ( https://ocod.home.blog/2019/12/08/why-tune-ddr4-is-important-for-ryzen/ ), and for example, when you attempt to overclock the memory while keeping low latency, should consider the memory layouts of the motherboard which you will use.
Two Types of Memory Layouts
For ATX motherboards, it is currently standard to equip 4 memory slots and support dual channels. Therefore, two memories are connected to one memory controller, and there are two patterns for connecting two memories.
One is called daisy chain (or flyby) and the other is t-topology. The outline of each is shown below.
daisy chain (fly-by)t-topology
The most important difference between these two types is the distance of the transmission lines which connect the two memory slots corresponded to one channel and the memory controller. Daisy chain has the different distance between each memory slots and the memory controller, in contrast, the t-topology has the same distance.
The Distance of Transmission Lines and the Memory Clock
How does the distance between the slot and memory controller affects the memory clock? If the distance of the transmission lines is different as in a daisy chain, the characteristic impedance is different between two slots, thus it is hard to reduce noise with impedance matching. On contrary, as in a t-topology, the distance of the transmission lines between slots of the same channel is same, so the impedance matching can be done easily, thus the frequency of occurring noise and signal degradation can be reduced. Because of that, if you use two memories on the same channel in a daisy chain (that is, you use a total of four memories), there are more possibility that noise occur more than tolerability than in t-topology. And when a memory clock is faster, there are much frequently to occurring noise. In these sense, in a t-topology, there are more possibility to achieve a faster clock when you use four memories.
However, a t-topology has a disadvantage. A t-topology has a longer physical distance of transmission lines between slots to memory controllers than a daisy chain, and a long physical distance is not suitable for increasing a clock speed. Also, unused transmission lines will be source of noise. In these sense, a t-topology which have longer transmission lines have a disadvantage in achieving faster clock.
Conclusion
In summary, in memory overclocking, a daisy chain has advantage when operating two memories and a t-topology is advantageous when operating four memories. As the number of chips of memory are increases, it becomes more difficult to operate with a fast clock. When overclock memory, it is general to use only two memories which are single rank operated on separate channels. So if you try to operate memories in faster clock, you should choose motherboards which have daisy chain layouts about memory.
Appendix: ITX Motherboards is the Best for Pursuit the Faster Clock of Memories
Most of ITX motherboards which have only two memory slots are the best for challenging the fastest memory clock. This is because that these have short transmission lines between the memories and the memory controllers as shown below, and there is no extra transmission lines that cause noise.